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If you want to talk about the weather, go to The Tavern and discuss it there. This is for genuine discussion of climate change, using factsm not fantasy or fiction, and having a legitimate discussion, not ignorant pathetic idiotic posting.

The Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees was signed in 1951, with minor adjustments in 1967. Since then, there hasn't been an update to the convention or the definition of refugee, so those directly impacted by climate change have no legal recourse to claim refugee status when their home becomes uninhabitable. Think of the Kiribati man denied by New Zealand or Tuvalu familes also denied by NZ in the past, despite rising sea levels putting their homes and lives at risk. New Zealand is now looking at amending it's own refugee laws to include those displaced by climate change.

Why does the convention need to be updated? Because there are already millions of displaced people as a result of climate change. Over 26 million according to the UN. https://theconversation.com/climate-cha ... them-89274

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Between 2008 and 2015, an average of 26.4 million people per year were displaced by climate- or weather-related disasters, according to the United Nations. And the science of climate change indicates that these trends are likely to get worse.


We have confirmed that humans are responsible, and can now be directly linked to multiple extreme weather events caused by our impact to the planet, and as science continues to advance, there will only be more and more evidence to support what is already commonly known and accepted. Here are 3 stories about a study published in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society confirming our impacts.

Science News - https://www.sciencenews.org/article/the ... ate-change
Scientific American - https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... on-humans/
Nature - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-017-08808-y

The global community in 2018 should focus on revising the convention on refugees to include climate change, and work to ensure the convention is globally adopted, including those countries currently not signatory.

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Speaking of climate impacts, we all know that coral reefs around the world are dying.

There are still healthy reefs, and even after they have been bleached they can recover — but only until the next time that sea temperatures rise beyond their tolerance range. Half of the world’s coral reefs are already gone, and the destruction continues relentlessly. The northern 750 kilometres of Australia’s Great Barrier Reef were largely killed by heat stress last year. Global warming will kill almost all of the world’s coral reefs by 2050.

Prof. Madeleine van Oppen’s work at the Australian Institute of Marine Science and the University of Melbourne is therefore good news. Her team is trying to breed hybrid coral animals and algae that can withstand higher temperatures. People worry about major interventions in the reef life, but it’s too late to leave them alone, given the pace at which we are losing corals…. It is only a matter of time before the next heat wave hits.

She calls what her team is doing ‘assisted evolution’, but it’s really just a more intense version of the selective breeding that people have been doing with domesticated species for thousands of years. They are also working with the algae that live inside the coral animals and are their major source of food, because it is when the water gets too warm and the corals expel the algae that bleaching occurs. So one team member, Leela Chakravarti, pushed the algae through eighty generations in the lab, selecting the most heat-tolerant in each generation. The final generation can live in water at 31 degrees.

The next step, obviously, is to transplant these modified coral animals and algae onto living reefs, which will require regulatory approval. That may not be forthcoming right away, because there will naturally be concerns that these ‘evolved’ animals and plants will out-compete the existing reef life. They are not different species, however, and the one circumstance in which they are likely to out-compete the existing reef-life is precisely during bleaching events, when they are more likely to survive. But that, surely, is the point of the whole exercise, and there are enough parts of the world with damaged reefs that van Oppen’s team will get permission for their experiments sooner or later. Probably sooner.

It is appropriate to deplore the fact that such experiments have become necessary, but that is where we are and it’s foolish to deny it. Even if all the pledges of cuts in greenhouse-gas emissions made in the Paris climate-change agreement of 2015 are kept, and even if the hope that follow-on meetings will bring deeper cuts in emissions is fulfilled, we are heading for ocean temperatures that will kill most or all of the coral reefs eventually.

We are therefore already in the situation, at least with regard to coral reefs, that James Lovelock, the creator of the Gaia hypothesis, forecast almost forty years ago: that the human race will wake up one day to find that we have inherited “the permanent lifelong job of planetary maintenance engineer.” The self-regulating natural systems have been knocked out, and it’s up to us to regulate and maintain them.

Nobody would consciously choose such a job. We don’t yet even fully understand the ways that the systems we will have to manage actually work. But the changes we have wrought in the environment are overwhelming the ability of natural systems to maintain themselves in their stable and familiar forms, and so it will be down to us to keep them going.


The word for this, if we are being honest, is ‘geo-engineering.’ It’s a very gentle, low-tech kind of geo-engineering, with relatively little chance of major negative side-effects if we get it wrong. We are definitely still on the learner slopes.

The interventions in natural systems will get much bigger, and the penalties for mistakes much more costly, as time goes on.

We are probably going to end up trying to regulate the temperature of the entire planet, with megadeaths as the penalty if we fail. But by then there will be no alternative.

Welcome to the future.

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Wildfires in BC scorched an area of 8,950 square kilometres.

So people can visualize that, the province of Prince Edward Island is 5,660 square kilometres.

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That puts the area between the size of Puerto Rico (8,870) and Cyprus (9,241) if you compare it to countries (according to http://world.bymap.org/LandArea.html). It's larger than any single fire event Australia has seen in the last 10 years.

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This is for genuine discussion of climate change, using factsm not fantasy or fiction, and having a legitimate discussion, not ignorant pathetic idiotic posting.


I can only hope.
And let's please do this.

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Speaking of climate impacts, we all know that coral reefs around the world are dying.

There are still healthy reefs, and even after they have been bleached they can recover — but only until the next time that sea temperatures rise beyond their tolerance range. Half of the world’s coral reefs are already gone, and the destruction continues relentlessly. The northern 750 kilometres of Australia’s Great Barrier Reef were largely killed by heat stress last year. Global warming will kill almost all of the world’s coral reefs by 2050.

Prof. Madeleine van Oppen’s work at the Australian Institute of Marine Science and the University of Melbourne is therefore good news. Her team is trying to breed hybrid coral animals and algae that can withstand higher temperatures. People worry about major interventions in the reef life, but it’s too late to leave them alone, given the pace at which we are losing corals…. It is only a matter of time before the next heat wave hits.

She calls what her team is doing ‘assisted evolution’, but it’s really just a more intense version of the selective breeding that people have been doing with domesticated species for thousands of years. They are also working with the algae that live inside the coral animals and are their major source of food, because it is when the water gets too warm and the corals expel the algae that bleaching occurs. So one team member, Leela Chakravarti, pushed the algae through eighty generations in the lab, selecting the most heat-tolerant in each generation. The final generation can live in water at 31 degrees.

The next step, obviously, is to transplant these modified coral animals and algae onto living reefs, which will require regulatory approval. That may not be forthcoming right away, because there will naturally be concerns that these ‘evolved’ animals and plants will out-compete the existing reef life. They are not different species, however, and the one circumstance in which they are likely to out-compete the existing reef-life is precisely during bleaching events, when they are more likely to survive. But that, surely, is the point of the whole exercise, and there are enough parts of the world with damaged reefs that van Oppen’s team will get permission for their experiments sooner or later. Probably sooner.

It is appropriate to deplore the fact that such experiments have become necessary, but that is where we are and it’s foolish to deny it. Even if all the pledges of cuts in greenhouse-gas emissions made in the Paris climate-change agreement of 2015 are kept, and even if the hope that follow-on meetings will bring deeper cuts in emissions is fulfilled, we are heading for ocean temperatures that will kill most or all of the coral reefs eventually.

We are therefore already in the situation, at least with regard to coral reefs, that James Lovelock, the creator of the Gaia hypothesis, forecast almost forty years ago: that the human race will wake up one day to find that we have inherited “the permanent lifelong job of planetary maintenance engineer.” The self-regulating natural systems have been knocked out, and it’s up to us to regulate and maintain them.

Nobody would consciously choose such a job. We don’t yet even fully understand the ways that the systems we will have to manage actually work. But the changes we have wrought in the environment are overwhelming the ability of natural systems to maintain themselves in their stable and familiar forms, and so it will be down to us to keep them going.


The word for this, if we are being honest, is ‘geo-engineering.’ It’s a very gentle, low-tech kind of geo-engineering, with relatively little chance of major negative side-effects if we get it wrong. We are definitely still on the learner slopes.

The interventions in natural systems will get much bigger, and the penalties for mistakes much more costly, as time goes on.

We are probably going to end up trying to regulate the temperature of the entire planet, with megadeaths as the penalty if we fail. But by then there will be no alternative.

Welcome to the future.

Thank you, Gwynne.
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A really Dyer forecast.

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Svarog wrote:
Speaking of climate impacts, we all know that coral reefs around the world are dying.

There are still healthy reefs, and even after they have been bleached they can recover — but only until the next time that sea temperatures rise beyond their tolerance range. Half of the world’s coral reefs are already gone, and the destruction continues relentlessly. The northern 750 kilometres of Australia’s Great Barrier Reef were largely killed by heat stress last year. Global warming will kill almost all of the world’s coral reefs by 2050.

Prof. Madeleine van Oppen’s work at the Australian Institute of Marine Science and the University of Melbourne is therefore good news. Her team is trying to breed hybrid coral animals and algae that can withstand higher temperatures. People worry about major interventions in the reef life, but it’s too late to leave them alone, given the pace at which we are losing corals…. It is only a matter of time before the next heat wave hits.

She calls what her team is doing ‘assisted evolution’, but it’s really just a more intense version of the selective breeding that people have been doing with domesticated species for thousands of years. They are also working with the algae that live inside the coral animals and are their major source of food, because it is when the water gets too warm and the corals expel the algae that bleaching occurs. So one team member, Leela Chakravarti, pushed the algae through eighty generations in the lab, selecting the most heat-tolerant in each generation. The final generation can live in water at 31 degrees.

The next step, obviously, is to transplant these modified coral animals and algae onto living reefs, which will require regulatory approval. That may not be forthcoming right away, because there will naturally be concerns that these ‘evolved’ animals and plants will out-compete the existing reef life. They are not different species, however, and the one circumstance in which they are likely to out-compete the existing reef-life is precisely during bleaching events, when they are more likely to survive. But that, surely, is the point of the whole exercise, and there are enough parts of the world with damaged reefs that van Oppen’s team will get permission for their experiments sooner or later. Probably sooner.

It is appropriate to deplore the fact that such experiments have become necessary, but that is where we are and it’s foolish to deny it. Even if all the pledges of cuts in greenhouse-gas emissions made in the Paris climate-change agreement of 2015 are kept, and even if the hope that follow-on meetings will bring deeper cuts in emissions is fulfilled, we are heading for ocean temperatures that will kill most or all of the coral reefs eventually.

We are therefore already in the situation, at least with regard to coral reefs, that James Lovelock, the creator of the Gaia hypothesis, forecast almost forty years ago: that the human race will wake up one day to find that we have inherited “the permanent lifelong job of planetary maintenance engineer.” The self-regulating natural systems have been knocked out, and it’s up to us to regulate and maintain them.

Nobody would consciously choose such a job. We don’t yet even fully understand the ways that the systems we will have to manage actually work. But the changes we have wrought in the environment are overwhelming the ability of natural systems to maintain themselves in their stable and familiar forms, and so it will be down to us to keep them going.


The word for this, if we are being honest, is ‘geo-engineering.’ It’s a very gentle, low-tech kind of geo-engineering, with relatively little chance of major negative side-effects if we get it wrong. We are definitely still on the learner slopes.

The interventions in natural systems will get much bigger, and the penalties for mistakes much more costly, as time goes on.

We are probably going to end up trying to regulate the temperature of the entire planet, with megadeaths as the penalty if we fail. But by then there will be no alternative.

Welcome to the future.

Thank you, Gwynne.
http://www.merrittherald.com/dyer-coral ... gineering/


Correct, it's Mr Dyer!

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You do that often? That's pretty lame man.

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You do that often? That's pretty lame man.


You're right, it's lame, but I don't do it often. I have done it before though.

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I just need to stop being intellectually lazy

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at least you don't just post the link and a smiley.

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at least you don't just post the link and a smiley.


:cry:

Most of the time I post the link, the title of the headline, and a paragraph or a few lines with my personal take on the contents. I'd say that's my M.O. 90% of the time, rather than quoting a whole article, although sometimes I do (like the George Monbiot article "We Can't Keep Eating Like This" in the other thread)

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Monbiot is great. Like Mark Lynas, a good example of how at least some people can be reasonable in public debate.

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The climate changes

One day it rains, the next day its sunny

One year its a cold winter, anither year not so much

Lets pay carbon taxes to stop the climate from changing


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The climate changes

One day it rains, the next day its sunny

One year its a cold winter, anither year not so much

Lets pay carbon taxes to stop the climate from changing


Weather is not climate :lol:

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Indeed, it's not, and if you want to talk about weather there's a link in the OP to continue doing so.

Take a look at the first paragraph of the thread and Metal_King's post if you have any confusion about the purpose of this thread vs the one in the Tavern.

It's an easy mistake to make, like Trump did on Twitter...again. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 7229701120

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In the East, it could be the COLDEST New Year’s Eve on record. Perhaps we could use a little bit of that good old Global Warming that our Country, but not other countries, was going to pay TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS to protect against. Bundle up!


The responses are amazing, of course. Like this one, explaining it to the poor chap. https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... er-winter/

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Most scientists agree that we need to differentiate between weather and climate. The NOAA defines climate as the average of weather over at least a 30-year period. So periodic aberrations—like the harsh winter storms ravaging the Southeast and other parts of the country this winter—do not call the science of human-induced global warming into question.


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Even most global warming skeptics agree that a specific cold snap or freak storm doesn’t have any bearing on whether or not the climate problem is real. One such skeptic, Jimmy Hogan of the Rational Environmentalist website writes, “If we are throwing out anecdotal evidence that refutes global warming we must at the same time throw out anecdotal evidence that supports it.”

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So the weather 30 years ago was different than it is today

Lets pay carbon taxes and deindustrialize to stop that


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So the weather 30 years ago was different than it is today

Lets pay carbon taxes and deindustrialize to stop that


You don't know what you're talking about. Go read something in the meantime

And for what it's worth, the carbon taxes as they are currently imagined is NOT the answer, because it doesn't do shit. So no, I'm not an advocate of carbon taxes, but just because some idiot came up with a failed policy, it doesn't negate the overall premise

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So the climate 30 years ago was different than it is today

Fixed that for you.

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So the weather 30 years ago was different than it is today

Lets pay carbon taxes and deindustrialize to stop that


You don't know what you're talking about. Go read something in the meantime

And for what it's worth, the carbon taxes as they are currently imagined is NOT the answer, because it doesn't do shit. So no, I'm not an advocate of carbon taxes, but just because some idiot came up with a failed policy, it doesn't negate the overall premise


Carbon tax in Australia worked. Emissions went down, power prices were stable, energy operators had certainty of investment.

Tony Abbott killed the tax, energy prices have more than doubled since, emissions are up 3 years in a row, their Direct Action policy to replace the carbon tax has done absolutely nothing, investment has almost completely dried up and we now have a policy vacuum.

Gillard's carbon tax was doing everything it was intended to do and didn't kill the economy in any way. It was driving investment and pushing prices down.


For anyone interested in some heavy reading, 2 reports came out recently.

The Royal Society in London has released a bit of a Q&A paper on what has been learnt since the 5th IPCC report was released. Questions like 'was there a pause in global warming' and 'how will climate change affect food production on the land'. Royal Society report - https://royalsociety.org/~/media/policy ... report.pdf

The US Global Change Research Program, made up of NASA, NOAA, and Dept of Energy, on the state ofclimate change science and the physical impacts. https://science2017.globalchange.gov/do ... Report.pdf

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This assessment concludes, based on extensive evidence, that it is extremely likely that human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases, are the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century. For the warming over the last century, there is no convincing alternative explanation supported by the extent of the observational evidence.

In addition to warming, many other aspects of global climate are changing, primarily in response to human activities. Thousands of studies conducted by researchers around the world have documented changes in surface, atmospheric, and oceanic temperatures; melting glaciers; diminishing snow cover; shrinking sea ice; rising sea levels; ocean acidification; and increasing atmospheric water vapor.


Just to make it clear, I highlighted key parts of the quote. Extremely likely = 95-100% chance according to the scales described on Page 7 of the report (pg 13 of the PDF).

Doubtful Trump has read this though, or that he ever will.

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So the climate 30 years ago was different than it is today

Fixed that for you.


The climate changes, but the weather stays the same?


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So the climate 30 years ago was different than it is today

Fixed that for you.


The climate changes, but the weather stays the same?

No. Weather has been more extreme because of climate.

For example, hurricanes like Harvey and Irma this year were always going to happen. But their destruction - the severity of them - is largely due to climate change. While the weather stayed the same (America had their "hurricane season"), the weather (the hurricanes) became more intense and damaging. That's directed by climate change.

And it goes both ways. Right now, we're in for the coldest New Years on-record that both Toronto and Ottawa have to stop some events. The cold is expected to knock out all temperature records.

Much like the hurricanes, it was always going to be cold in December/January. However, it is climate change which is directing the severity of the cold.

Extreme weather is caused by climate change. Climate change causes extreme weather.

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If you think that little bit of semantics about the climate "always changing" is going to settle an argument that rests on literally nothing else, than this is not the thread for you, Lord Bullington.

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How a warming climate can lead to more extreme cold during winter, a great guide for Trump and others who believe "omg it's cold today, this is a bullshit myth perpetrated by China!!".

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/2709 ... ate-change

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The evidence is clear that the Arctic has been warming faster than the rest of the planet. That warming is reducing the amount of Arctic sea ice, allowing more heat to escape from the ocean. The scientists think that the ocean energy that is being released is causing a weakening of the polar vortex winds over the Arctic, which normally keep cold air centered over the polar region. That weakening is then allowing cold polar air to slip southward more often.

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