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Tawriya: "Creative Lying" Advocated in Islam

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2898 ... ying-islam


Tawriya is not a "new doctrine". Examples of Tawriya fall both under the rules of Hudna (temporary armistice with the kuffar) as well as simply excusing one's failure to honour an oath, not doing what one promised, or twisting one's earlier words implying that he meant something else. Tawriya allows Muslim scholars to "re-translate the Quran" in such a way as to make it more in line with modern science and Liberalism. But it also allows a Muslim to deceive other Muslims, the way would be "terrorist martyrs" are misinformed about when the bomb is about to go off.

A temporary armistice under Hudna however can simply mean Muslims living in a secular country. The rules of Hudna permit coexistence only until "the Muslims are stronger or more numerous" at which point they are supposed to take over and institute Sharia. This is why peace treaties will never work with Muslim countries. They will only be honoured if the neighbouring country is stronger. Needless to say - rules of armistice work against both Muslims and non-Muslims alike and same is true of Tawriya - it breeds suspiciousness and fuels paranoia - a defining feature of the political relationship between various Islamic states.

Many forums and groups have used "taqiya" to denote creative lying permitted in Islam, however, technically this is incorrect because Taqiya is a Shi'a term which is derived not from the Hadiths but from "Reliance of the Traveller", - a Shi'a source. Taqiya allows a Muslim travelling on a Haj to lie about his religion if the infidels confront him. All Muslim scholars regardless of the sect, however will be familiar with Tawriya - a direct result of many of Muhammad's Hadiths. Tawriya is one of the fine red lines separating religion and politics.

Permissiveness of deceit in order to achieve a political goal is a feature of political ideologies like Nazism. It was Goebbels who openly encouraged deceit for propaganda purposes, and Islam is not very different in this respect, however it stepped further - to encourage deceit in its adept's personal life. If you soiled your pants during prayer - walk away holding your nose. Everyone will think someone else did it....

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A French Armenian tried to ram his car into a crowd outside a French mosque:

https://www.rt.com/news/394668-mosque-car-man-arrested/

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Here's something the western MSM isn't telling you: nearly half a million Syrian refugees have actually returned home, because the security under Assad has greatly improved.

But the USA is still committed to regime change because it is beholden to someone else's interests, namely NetanYAHOO and the Saudi Arabian black monarchy


http://in.reuters.com/article/mideast-c ... NKBN19L13B

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GENEVA (Reuters) - Nearly half a million Syrians have returned to their homes so far this year, including 440,000 internally displaced people and more than 31,000 returning from neighbouring countries, the U.N. refugee agency said on Friday.

Most returned to Aleppo, Hama, Homs and Damascus, it said, on the view that security had improved in parts of the country.

"This is a significant trend and a significant number," UNHCR spokesman Andrej Mahecic told a Geneva news briefing.

"Most of these people are returning to check on properties, to find out about family members ... They have their own perceptions about the security situation, real or perceived improvements in areas they are returning to."

He said it was premature to say whether de-escalation zones set up via talks held by Russia, Iran and Turkey in Astana or U.N.-led peace talks in Geneva had accelerated the return trend.

An estimated 6.3 million people remain internally displaced across Syria after more than six years of war, Mahecic said.

A further 5 million are refugees in neighbouring countries.

A survey conducted by the UNHCR in recent weeks showed that more than 80 percent of Syrian refugees expressed their wish to return home, he said.

"Of those, only about 6 percent were considering that to be a possibility in the near future," he said

UNHCR believes that conditions for refugees to return in safety and dignity "are not yet in place in Syria", he added.

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‘Israel doing everything to prevent Syria from prevailing against terrorists’


https://www.rt.com/op-edge/395002-syria-israel-military-terrorism/


More on the impending chemical weapons false-flag accusation against Syria's government:

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/394928-trump-nostradamus-syria-putin/

https://www.rt.com/news/394986-propaganda-campaign-damascus-chemical/


The Wahabbists in Riyadh and the might-as-well-be's in Tel Aviv are close to getting the war that they want.

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Syrian Army seizes Israeli equipment supplied to Al-Qaeda in the Golan Heights


https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-seizes-israeli-equipment-supplied-al-qaeda-golan-heights/

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Top jihadi commander killed in southwestern Syria


https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/top-jihadi-commander-killed-southwestern-syria/

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Rebel Israeli-backed offensive ultimately fails as Syrian Army recaptures all territory


https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/rebel-israeli-backed-offensive-ultimately-fails-syrian-army-recaptures-territory/

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Saudi Arabia boosting extremism in Europe, says former ambassador


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/13/saudi-arabia-boosting-extremism-in-europe-says-former-ambassador

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Clearly this is all the Orb's fault.


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The orb is love. The orb is life.

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Don't put your dick in the Orb.

At least buy dinner for it first.


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You aren't the boss of me.

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Israeli government uses predictive computer algorithm for pre-emptive arrests of Palestinians:

http://therealnews.com/t2/story:18929:Israel-Acknowledges-Use-of-Computer-Algorithm-For-Palestinian-Arrests

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Israeli authorities have recently acknowledged that, in the past few weeks, they have arrested 400 Palestinians who committed no crime, but were identified by a computer program as, "likely to commit a crime in the future".



:frankenstein: Oh yeah, this is not going to end badly. :rolleyes:


Haaretz had something about this, more tame in tone but longer.

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I like the new title of the thread, fits perfectly with some top level Aussie bullshit.

Our criminal Immigration minister is to be the head of the intelligence agency (ASIO), federal police (AFP), immigration (DIBP), Border Force, Criminal Intelligence Commission and more. He has overseen years of criminal neglect, abuse, torture and even murder of refugees in offshore detention facilities, after PNG deemed the centre illegal on Manus Island he has done nothing to resettle the remaining refugees there, and now he's turning off water, power and other services in the centre to comply with PNG's request to close the illegal facility, forcing refugees into the streets where they have been attacked repeatedly by locals, and murdered.

https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/sea ... r-decision

All this for a "home office" type department absolutely nobody has said is needed. No intelligence officials, police, nothing. Oh, and we're using the military for domestic purposes now too... :stupider:

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Israeli government uses predictive computer algorithm for pre-emptive arrests of Palestinians:

http://therealnews.com/t2/story:18929:Israel-Acknowledges-Use-of-Computer-Algorithm-For-Palestinian-Arrests

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Israeli authorities have recently acknowledged that, in the past few weeks, they have arrested 400 Palestinians who committed no crime, but were identified by a computer program as, "likely to commit a crime in the future".



:frankenstein: Oh yeah, this is not going to end badly. :rolleyes:


Haaretz had something about this, more tame in tone but longer.


But Israel are the victims... :roll:

Still amazes me that they can snatch the land from under the Palestinians and not look like total assholes the world over while they play victim.

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No Peace Yet for Iraq or Syria - Dyer

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The shooting was still going on down by the river last week when Iraq’s Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi dropped by and prematurely declared that the battle for Mosul was over. He was misled by the various Iraqi army, police and militia units who were competing with one another to declare victory first, but now it really is over – and there is little left of Mosul.

The siege began on 17 October of last year, so it lasted nine months – longer than the Battle of Stalingrad. It probably killed more civilians, too, because the US-led air forces were used to compensate for the shortage of trained and motivated Iraqi ground forces.

Individual ISIS snipers were regularly taken out by air strikes that levelled entire buildings. Life is returning to some of the east-bank suburbs that were retaken last year, but there is nothing to go back to in the oldest part of the city on the west bank, where ISIS made its last stand. And the level of destruction has been almost as high in a lot of other cities.

The Sunni Arab communities of Iraq and Syria are shattered and scattered. The mixed Sunni-Shia neighbourhoods of Baghdad were mostly “cleansed” of their Sunni residents in the civil war of 2006-08. Even Sunni-majority cities in Iraq that were taken back from ISIS a couple of years ago, like Ramadi and Fallujah, are still largely deserted, with few signs of reconstruction.

Not many of the estimated 900,000 people in refugee camps around Mosul, almost all Sunni Arabs, will be going home soon either. And in Syria, the eastern side of Aleppo, Syria’s biggest city, fell last December after a four-year siege. It now contains a few tens of thousands of people rattling around in the ruins.

Raqqa, ISIS’s capital in Syria, will be largely destroyed in the next few months, and after that it will be the turn of Deir-es-Zor. The calamity that began in 2003, when the US invasion of Iraq overthrew the centuries-long Sunni rule over a mostly Shia country, has reached its final phase.

There can be no come-back for the Sunni Arabs of Iraq, who only make up one-fifth of the country’s 36 million people. They have been ruined by their long complicity with Sunni minority rule of the country, first under the Turkish empire, latterly under Sunni tyrants like Saddam Hussein, and finally by their reluctant, desperate support for ISIS. Some, maybe most, will remain in the country, but not as equal citizens.

The Sunni Arabs of Syria will not suffer the same fate, for they are fully 60 percent of that country’s population, but their current situation is appalling. They were very unwise to throw their lot in with ISIS and al-Qaeda – which most of the Sunni fighters in Syria did in the end, though it is impolitic to say so in public – and they are now paying a heavy price for that mistake.

In the longer run, however, Syria’s Sunni Arab majority will have to be reintegrated into the general society. It isn’t impossible: millions of urban Sunnis never fought against the regime anyway, regarding their mostly rural fellow Sunnis who fell for the jihadi fantasy as severely misguided.

There’s at least another year’s fighting against ISIS and al-Qaeda-linked forces in Syria before reconciliation can even begin. There may be much more than a year’s fighting before the Kurds are subjugated again in Syria and Turkey.

They are out of the box now, controlling almost all of the Kurdish-majority parts of northern Syria and many rural areas in south-eastern Turkey. Since Turkey’s President Recep Tayyib Erdogan re-started the war against Turkey’s Kurds two years ago, they have even taken control of some parts of the Kurdish-majority big cities in the south-east – and bits of them look like Syria’s devastated cities.

As for Iraq’s Kurds, it may prove impossible to put them back in the box at all. Thanks to the collapse of the Iraqi army three years ago, when ISIS overran much of the country in a fortnight, the Kurdish Regional Government now rules over all the traditionally Kurdish areas of Iraq. It is effectively an independent country, and it has scheduled a referendum for September to make that official.

Iraq’s government will fight that, of course, but unless the United States is willing to bomb the Kurds the way it bombed ISIS, Baghdad is unlikely to win. The Iraqi army couldn’t even have retaken Mosul without the lavish use of US air power.

Washington is much more likely to betray the Syrian Kurds, but unless it does, they too will probably manage to keep their de facto state within a nominally reunited Syria. (Turkey would be happy to crush them for free, but the Syrian regime and its Russian and Iranian backers would certainly veto that.)

So there’s lots of fighting left to be done, and lots of opportunities yet for the United States and Russia to stumble into a confrontation. Stay tuned.

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Some jihadbro from the UAE has stabbed a woman (to death) and some others, in Hamburg, Germany.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40757119

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The path of Islam is always the same: http://i.imgur.com/EK5wXh9.jpg

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That seems more than a little alarmist. There's a billion muslims in the world, that's a lot of different worldviews. There's probably several dozen million who agree with at many points.

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The path of Islam is always the same: http://i.imgur.com/EK5wXh9.jpg



Aww yeah, another credible conservative insight into what "all" Muslims do.

And of course it comes from some American NeoCon website, with - you guessed it - a Jewish author.

Because you know, all Jews are a credible source of intelligence about all muslims.

And all white Christians have a duty to believe them and act with forcibly according to their assertions.

Because you know, you wouldn't want some other religion to insidiously force its agenda on all of our society. And you also wouldn't want to have extremists take power and organize a society-wide effort to wipe out the impure among us.

Yes, good thing we have such noble and selfless guardians to protect us.
And even better knowing what all Jews, all Muslims, and all Christians are about. :rolleyes:

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That same reactionary (and totally not racist) FB post could be applied to all major religions that have places of worship. They have churches everywhere! OH NOES! Fuck off.

As much as I don't like organized religion, there are good people who believe in it and that makes them happy and you know what? That's their right.

You know I really don't like? Discriminating and inflammatory rhetoric presented in a "factual" meme that people will use to try to prove their point.

It doesn't work. It never works. Stop being a fucking bigoted twat.

Can't imagine living in such a whitewashed vacuum where the mere idea of a mosque makes you shit your pants. I'm glad I don't.


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I agree with that, for the most part.

Look, if the idea that Moslems are ticking time bombs (perhaps literally) is accurate then we all need to invest in sturdy fucking helmets. There are a billion of them, Moslems. A fucking billion. Even if every standing army united against as one against, they'd be picked apart like a roadkill after ants get a sniff. And then there'd still be what, five hundred million Moslems left - and that'd only be the case if the war went exceptionally poor for them?

No, putting them to the sword - even if it weren't a shithead thing to do - isn't a worthy approach. That's a war of attrition that, when stretched out over a long enough time scale, we simply cannot win.

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Blackjebus wrote:
The path of Islam is always the same: http://i.imgur.com/EK5wXh9.jpg



Aww yeah, another credible conservative insight into what "all" Muslims do.

And of course it comes from some American NeoCon website, with - you guessed it - a Jewish author.

Because you know, all Jews are a credible source of intelligence about all muslims.

And all white Christians have a duty to believe them and act with forcibly according to their assertions.

Because you know, you wouldn't want some other religion to insidiously force its agenda on all of our society. And you also wouldn't want to have extremists take power and organize a society-wide effort to wipe out the impure among us.

Yes, good thing we have such noble and selfless guardians to protect us.
And even better knowing what all Jews, all Muslims, and all Christians are about. :rolleyes:

*applause.

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Because you know, you wouldn't want some other religion to insidiously force its agenda on all of our society. And you also wouldn't want to have extremists take power and organize a society-wide effort to wipe out the impure among us.


You are mistaking "Islam" for a religion.

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More chairs with blankets on them:

https://i.redd.it/hh8c4u01xbez.png

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Britain experiencing cultural enrichment:

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UK: Acid Attacks Now at 'Epidemic Levels', Says Burns Surgeon

Dr Martin Niall, a burn surgeon at Mid-Essex Hospital, told National Public Radio (NPR) in the U.S. that acid attacks in Britain “are now at levels that one of my colleagues described as epidemic”.

He added: “Everyone, ourselves included, has been shocked by this emerging threat to public health.”

In terms of attacks per head of population, London is now the acid attack capital of the world, with a 74 per cent rise in assaults — from 261 to 454 — between 2015 and 2016.


http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08 ... rgeon/amp/

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Because you know, you wouldn't want some other religion to insidiously force its agenda on all of our society. And you also wouldn't want to have extremists take power and organize a society-wide effort to wipe out the impure among us.


You are mistaking "Islam" for a religion.


There's no mistaking you for a bigot that's for sure.

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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/07/acid-attacks-now-epidemic-levels-says-essex-burns-surgeon/amp/


Oh yes, Breitbart, the conservative news site for people who think Fox News is too liberal in their news coverage. Now it all makes sense.


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