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To sum up: "When it rains, it pours."

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Parkland school shooting: Father of two survivors killed in Florida store

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44902595


Bummer. Another petty thug murdering someone for a few hundred bucks. Black lives matter.


20 Jul 2018, 15:13
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Here's one for people to debate:

This chick, Maria Butina, ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44885633

... has been arrested as a supposed Russian spy trying to infiltrate the US political system, specifically the NRA. Her defense is that she's not a spy, but a Russian activist who's gone whole-hog for US-style gun politics (making her like a Russian Sarah Palin ?).

Evidence:
One the one hand, she did have contact with another Russian who was one of those sanctioned by the US government, and though the NRA is not a governmental body, it is politically influential with close contact with (and dominance of) many US politicians & government officials. (I.E. - she has honey, might be a "honey pot".)

On the other hand, her political proclivities and activities have been very open, and one would think a "spy" attempting covert espionage would seek to avoid, not attract, public attention.

So, think she's a spy with shady connection to Kremlin-connected big shots?

Or just a Russian gun enthusiast (& future Russian politician?) who was trying to bring US-style gun culture to Russia?

What we have here is a test case for whether the US authorities are feeling a sincere fear fear and taking legitimate action, or are motivated by an excess of hysteria or perhaps cynicism, regarding "the Russia issue".

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i can't believe it was out there in those conditions. totally irresponsible.

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20 Jul 2018, 15:41
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i can't believe it was out there in those conditions. totally irresponsible.



The boat? Yeah. I guess sometimes these tour operators (in general) try to push their luck, and fail.

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20 Jul 2018, 16:09
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Awww, Stormy is back in the news. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... gal-latest

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Donald Trump was secretly recorded two months before the 2016 election discussing a potential payoff to a former Playboy model who claimed she had an affair with him, it was reported on Friday.


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According to the Times, the former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has been recruited by Trump as a personal lawyer, confirmed that the recording exists and that the two-minute conversation includes Trump discussing payments to Karen McDougal, who has claimed she had an affair with Trump in 2006, shortly after the birth of his youngest son.

Giuliani claimed the payments were not made and that Trump did nothing wrong. Representatives for Trump have denied the affair.


So we know Cohen paid her, we know Trump talked deal with her... buuuuut, it never happened? :lol:

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20 Jul 2018, 20:52
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Cohen paid Daniels, this tape and Trump's denial is about McDougal. Two women, separate matters. Do you not read?

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20 Jul 2018, 22:25
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it's all so tiresome. anyone with any common sense knows this shit went down. nothing will happen because character is out of style.

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20 Jul 2018, 22:37
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Nothing needs to happen because it's a fishing expedition and has nothing to do with his presidency. There are legitimate reasons to go after Trump, and this is not one of them.

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it's a transparent effort to sew dischord in his family life which is slimy. no need to sink to trump levels to go after trump.

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The best Trump cartoon I've seen in a long time. Too big though, so here's the link.

https://i.imgur.com/tCHgPvu.jpg

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20 Jul 2018, 23:45
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Whoa. I never would've guessed that Donald Trump had sex with porn stars and playboy models.

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I've given more than several die-hard Trump supporters an exercise to do to see how far their hypocrisy goes.

Take everything Trump has done/is doing..... now replace him with Obama. Still feel the same way?

Every time I've asked that I either get heads exploding or the supporters getting so flustered that the only response is anger. No way in motherfuck that any of these people would EVER put up with any of this bullshit had it come from Obama.

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So true.

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Cohen paid Daniels, this tape and Trump's denial is about McDougal. Two women, separate matters. Do you not read?


:roll:

Just posts links of other people's opinions ad nauseam and says "Look!". "See?".

Lol.


21 Jul 2018, 10:30
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Take everything Trump has done/is doing..... now replace him with Obama. Still feel the same way?


I would like Obama if he was more conservative and he didn't constantly spread his cheeks for Islam.

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21 Jul 2018, 12:18
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The best Trump cartoon I've seen in a long time. Too big though, so here's the link.

https://i.imgur.com/tCHgPvu.jpg



Add the letter "L" before the ".jpg", and voila...


Image


So glad people told me about this feature of Imgur.

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I would like Obama if he was more conservative and he didn't constantly spread his cheeks for Islam.


The Repubicans / neocons have spread their cheeks for Islam more than you'll ever admit: never forget that 9/11 and almost all the "Islamic" terrorism in the world, especially that in Europe, is the product of the Wahabbist / Salafist movement - backed by Saudi Arabia, who western Cons have supported to the Nth degree. Before 9/11, after 9/11, doesn't matter - they keep advancing, while all the "anti-Islam" rhetoric in Americanized conservatism (that includes your brand, in Canada) focuses on demonizing Iran (the enemies of Wahabbists & Salafists).

Conservatives have been feeding the very powers which attack the west, and waging hate campaigns against the opponents of our enemies. Tell me are the supporters of our enemies also our enemies?

If so, then the Republicans and other "Anglosphere" conservatives, are basically all traitors. Too bad their dull-witted "patriot" supporters can't recognize that.

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Absolutely. I think the Republican establishment swamp is every bit as disgusting as Obama.

Donald Trump is a breath of fresh air to me.

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21 Jul 2018, 13:03
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Like many, I think the media are too focused on this McDougal / Daniels business, which shouldn't be a legal concern unless it was coercive (which may have been in Daniels' case?), or involved diversion of actual campaign money to these NDA payoffs.

Unseemly? Maybe. Salacious? Definitely. But as a legal case, does it hold up? Probably not.

Then again, the US legal system has a history of inventing charges for things which are not the business of the state, yet letting go many terrible crimes which absolutely damage the public trust.

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the US legal system has a history of inventing charges for things which are not the business of the state, yet letting go many terrible crimes which absolutely damage the public trust.


Yup.

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https://i.imgur.com/veDJBrQ.mp4

Lol

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FLORIDA MAN shoots other Florida man dead over handicapped parking space dispute, and won't be charged due to "stand your ground" law...

https://globalnews.ca/news/4345444/florida-parking-spot-shooting-stand-your-ground-law/
http://theweek.com/speedreads/786173/florida-man-who-fatally-shot-another-over-parking-spot-wont-charged-due-stand-ground-law

Oh, this one will be debated. Read the background and check out the security cam footage. :snack:

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Bush's old heart surgeon gunned down too in a ride-by shooting. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-22/h ... t/10022860

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FLORIDA MAN shoots other Florida man dead over handicapped parking space dispute, and won't be charged due to "stand your ground" law...

https://globalnews.ca/news/4345444/florida-parking-spot-shooting-stand-your-ground-law/
http://theweek.com/speedreads/786173/florida-man-who-fatally-shot-another-over-parking-spot-wont-charged-due-stand-ground-law

Oh, this one will be debated. Read the background and check out the security cam footage. :snack:


Regardless of all the opinions on this, you gotta be a fucking idiot to go pushing people like that in Florida, especially knowing that law is in effect.

Old man was a good marksman. Single shot to the mass and done. That's better than most police in America can do.

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Trump goes bonkers on Iran, but the quote below made me laugh. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... ike-pompeo

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Earlier, Mike Pompeo, the US secretary of state, called Iran’s ruling elite a “mafia” who have amassed vast sums of wealth while allowing their people to suffer.


Does he not realize he's just described the US perfectly? Not to mention his "hypocritical holy men" comment... the hypocrisy of that in the US is fucking astounding.

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