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He crossed that border and put on the ICE jacket a long time ago.

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13 Jun 2018, 15:04
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The Antarctic ice sheet has lost more than 2,500 billion tonnes of ice in the past 25 years and nearly half of that has happened since 2012.

An international team of polar scientists found that melting in Antarctica has jumped sharply from an average of 76 billion tonnes per year prior to 2012, to around 219 billion tonnes each year between 2012 and 2017.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2018 ... se/9859828

But the pope commented on it, so it must not be true. Just like everything else the pope talks about. Or something.

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13 Jun 2018, 20:46
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Lol jebus.


13 Jun 2018, 22:22
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Since when is the fucking pope a scientific expert?



He's not, but he listens to them, unlike you and your climate-science-denying heroes.

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The final draft report from the UN’s intergovernmental panel on climate change (IPCC) was due for publication in October. It is the guiding scientific document for what countries must do to combat climate change.

Human-induced warming would exceed 1.5C by about 2040 if emissions continued at their present rate, the report found, but countries could keep warming below that level if they made “rapid and far-reaching” changes.


https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... al-warming

More from McKibben (350.org) on the pope's meeting with oil execs & comments on climate change - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... check-pope

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What’s really “worrying”, though, “is the continued search for new fossil fuel reserves, whereas the Paris agreement clearly urged keeping most fossil fuels underground”. And in that small sentence he calls the bluff on most of what passes for climate action among nations and among fossil fuel companies. Yes, Donald Trump notwithstanding, most countries have begun to take some steps to reduce demand for energy over time. Yes, oil companies have begun to grudgingly issue “climate risk reports” and divert minuscule percentages of their research budgets to renewables.

But no one has been willing to face the fact that we have to leave more than 80% of known fossil fuel reserves underground if we have any chance of meeting the Paris targets. No company has been willing to commit to leaving the coal and oil and gas in the earth, and almost no nation has been willing to make them do so. Instead, the big fossil fuel countries continue to aid and abet the big fossil fuel companies in the push for more mining and drilling. In Australia, the Turnbull government backs a massive new coalmine; in Canada, the Trudeau government literally buys a pipeline to keep the tar sands expanding; in the US, the federal government might as well be a wholly owned subsidiary of the fossil fuel companies.

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Does the IPCC still fabricate data to get the results they hope for, or did they stop doing that when they got caught last time?

Also, have ANY of their past predictions come true?

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15 Jun 2018, 07:57
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Blackjebus wrote:
Since when is the fucking pope a scientific expert?



He's not, but he listens to them, unlike you and your climate-science-denying heroes.


I don't deny science, I deny the liars that play up doomsday scenarios just so they have an excuse to redistribute wealth through sketchy "eco-friendly" schemes.

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15 Jun 2018, 07:59
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Does the IPCC still fabricate data to get the results they hope for, or did they stop doing that when they got caught last time?

Also, have ANY of their past predictions come true?



They never fabricated anything. Repeating your previous lies does not make them magically come true.

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Blackjebus wrote:
Since when is the fucking pope a scientific expert?



He's not, but he listens to them, unlike you and your climate-science-denying heroes.


I don't deny science, I deny the liars that play up doomsday scenarios just so they have an excuse to redistribute wealth through sketchy "eco-friendly" schemes.


More conspiracy theories brought forward by the petroleum lobby, through their "conservative" puppet groups who are against conserving anything.

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They never fabricated anything.


Those leaked emails from 2010 tell a different story.


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More conspiracy theories brought forward by the petroleum lobby


You are repeating a handy made-up excuse to dismiss questions and criticism.

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Jebus using leaked emails to justfy his ignorance again. Shock. Awe.

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verbalsniper wrote:
They never fabricated anything.


Those leaked emails from 2010 tell a different story.


verbalsniper wrote:
More conspiracy theories brought forward by the petroleum lobby


You are repeating a handy made-up excuse to dismiss questions and criticism.


What, from one discredited scientist, Professor Phil Jones? You gotta be kidding me.

Scientists can be rather unworldly, but within their own little world they are highly competitive and capable of considerable nastiness toward their competitors. (Q: Why are scientific politics so nasty? A: Because the stakes are so small.) It is not clear whether Phil Jones was being serious or only mock-serious in his e-mail, but he certainly could have been planning to do exactly what he said. But whatever, Jones was forced to step down as head of the CRU; the hacker (probably a Russian) walked away counting his money.

People who know science and scientists will be disappointed both by the behaviour of Jones and by the glacier incident with IPCC chairman Rajendra Pachauri, but they will not be surprised. This sort of thing happens from time to time, because we are dealing with human beings. But it does not (as the denial brigade insists) discredit the whole enterprise in which they are engaged.

If this were politics of a party you liked you'd be stumbling all over yourself in protest about how one or two bad apples don't spoil the whole damn bunch.

In other scientific fields you (and everyone else) implicitly accept a statistical confidence level of 95% (which is the established mathematical standard) but with climate science you don't (we've actually surpassed it... we're at 97%)... simply because for you it represents something inconvenient. That's really all it is

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This guy sells a product to help keep permafrost frozen in Alaska to support decades old oil extraction processes, built around a frozen north. Business is now booming as a result of the melting permafrost. Oil companies paying big to re-freeze the ground they're helping thaw out. What's more ridiculous than that? This comment...

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"I'm not debating what's happening," he says. "What are we going to do about it?"


https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/61724038 ... rost-thaws

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Executives in Australia may be hauled to court in the future if they fail to address risks of climate change, for failing their duty of care according to ASIC (our version of the SEC in the US). https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/busine ... 4zm7j.html

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The legal advice, which was commissioned by the Centre for Policy Development (CPD) and the Future Business Council, said directors not thinking about climate change risks today could be found liable for breaching their duty of care in the future.

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